Sunday 1st July 2001 - 11 a.m. (one day later)
QUESTION: Can you tell me what happened last night?
You were acting all drunk but I couldn't smell any whiskey
or beer. When did it all start?
I went to Gai's house to meet some of my friends called
Hung and Gong. They were late so I just slept for a
few hours. I woke up at 1.30 p.m. and had something
to eat. Soon my friends arrived. Hung and Gong shared
money together to buy some amphetamines. I went with
Gai to buy 17 pills for them. Hung also wanted some
cough medicine and some pills called Sainax. It is for
people who are not feeling happy or had a bad day at
work. It makes them feel better.
QUESTION: What do you do with the cough medicine?
Do you drink it?
No, it is pills. Two pills is enough to make you drunk.
I took two pills but nothing happened. Then Gai remembered
that one of my friends wanted some marijuana too. We
didn't know where to buy it so we went back to ask Hung.
He said we could buy it in a soi near his house. He
went with us and Gai and Hung shared their money to
buy some. I didn't have any money. My mum kept it for
me. After we bought it we went back.
How many fingers am I holding up?
QUESTION: I was just wandering. When I asked you
last night you couldn't focus and then about an hour
or so ago you answered me in Thai and said "shhhham"
instead of "sam". I just wanted to see if
you were thinking straight yet. OK, can you tell me
a bit more about Sainax? How much did it cost?
A pack of ten pills costs 70 baht. You can't buy it
at every chemists, only some. And then you have to ask
for it. We then went back to Gai's house. Hung took
6 more Sainax pills and he gave me four. I put it in
a plastic bag for later.
Where is it now?
I don't know. I can't find it.
QUESTION: Did you take it?
No, for sure.
QUESTION: Was that what you were arguing with Gai
about on the telephone last night? I heard you talking
about medicine and pills.
Did I? I don't remember.
QUESTION: What happened next?
We then went to the back of the house to take marijuana.
We didn't smoke it like a cigarette. We used a plastic
bottle with some water at the bottom. Then we put a
hole in the bottle and put the marijuana in it with
some silver foil. Then we lit it. I took it too much
I think. I felt drunk and wanted to sleep. I can't even
remember how I got from Gai's house to the Counter Strike
Game Shop. But, I can remember that Hung put me in a
taxi and then I came here to school by myself. I remember
that I met you in front of the school when I came out
of the taxi. Then I came up to the computer room and
went to sleep.
QUESTION: You don't remember anything else?
Don't you remember me ringing you at 10 p.m.
to find out where you were?
No, I don't. Yes, maybe you did.
QUESTION: Do you remember talking to your mum last
night on the phone and telling her you were sleeping
at the school?
No, I don't remember that. I don't remember what happened
to those four pills.
QUESTION: The cough medicine or Sainax? Do you want
to take some now?
QUESTION: Why do you keep talking about the pills?
You were doing that last night. They are not expensive.
You told me 70 baht for 10 and it costs more than that
for one amphetamine pill.
It is difficult to buy. I have to go to Samrong to buy
it. You can't buy it here. They won't sell it to everyone.
Hung knows the chemist in Samrong.
OK. Now we need to talk about you saying the
other day you were going to be strong. What went wrong?
What went wrong? What? I didn't take amphetamine.
QUESTION: Are you looking at what happened last
Don't you think this is the same? They are both
No, this is fun.
QUESTION: Isn't amphetamines fun for you.
It is fun, but in a more bad way.
QUESTION: Is it bad because they are always talking
about yaa bah (crazy medicine) in the newspaper?
No, it is bad because I can't sleep. If I am alone I
won't have anything to do. Also, I don't feel like eating
so I have lost a lot of weight. Taking marijuana will
make me fat as it makes me feel hungry. And, when someone
says a joke I can laugh easily.
QUESTION: So, what are you saying? You think it
is OK to take marijuana?
I think taking amphetamine is worse than marijuana.
QUESTION: Do you really know that much about marijuana?
Are you not worried that if you keep taking it, then
that might affect your problem solving skills or the
way you learn in class?
I don't take it that often. It is difficult to get as
QUESTION: How much is marijuana?
A wad smaller than a box of matches costs about 70 baht.
QUESTION: You see nothing wrong with this?
If I only take Sainax and not marijuana it is OK.
QUESTION: What is so interesting about Sainax?
It makes you drunk easily. Also, if you have a fever
or problems at work and you take it, then you will feel
QUESTION: Have you taken it before?
Yes, a long time ago during the summer holidays.
QUESTION: What about marijuana?
QUESTION: Why don't you just get drunk the normal
way? Sitting around chatting with your friends and drinking
No, it is different OK. It is like being drunk but it
is a different feeling. It is also a cheaper way to
QUESTION: You are saying that you are still being
strong but I don't look at it that way.
QUESTION: I think drugs is drugs. You are not in
control. I wish I had a video camera last night to show
you what you were like. Do you really know what the
dangers and long term affects of these drugs are?
I am not taking it that often!
QUESTION: Yes I know. But don't forget that is what
you said to me a couple of months ago about amphetamines.
It is not the same. OK?
QUESTION: Are you planning to take some more cough
medicine or Sainax?
No. I don't mean no forever. I mean not now, not this
week. But, I am not going to keep taking it.
QUESTION: I don't really want to repeat myself because
you don't like it, but you said exactly the same about
amphetamines back in April.
It is NOT the same. OK?
QUESTION: Well, you have to tell me why it is not
the same as I don't understand.
Because it is not easy to get those pills. Not every
chemist sells them. Samrong is far from here.
I am sure there must be one around here.
There is not any here.
QUESTION: We were talking before about you taking
a step forward in beating drugs and I said be careful
not to take two steps back by making a wrong choice.
So, you are saying that what happened last night wasn't
two steps back?
No it wasn't. I am still in the same place as Friday.
QUESTION: Is your plan still going ahead?
QUESTION: What about last night when your friends
were taking amphetamines? Were you being strong?
Yes for sure. I was thinking about the amulet and what
my mother had told me.
QUESTION: That was at the start of the session.
What if you had already taken marijuana before they
started on the amphetamines. Would you have been strong
enough to stop yourself? You didn't look very in control
last night when I saw you.
You know what. I was not in control but I knew myself
and what I was doing. I am sure I would have been strong
enough to not take them.
OK, lets finish this interview now as you are
looking sleepy again. So, in conclusion you don't think
you are having a problem with marijuana?
No, because I am not going to take it anymore. I feel
bad now. I don't mean never. I won't take it often.
Maybe once a month.
QUESTION: You are making me repeat myself again....
I am not going to get addicted again. OK? I learned
Sunday 1st July 2001 (6 hours later)
QUESTION: I didn't really want to let you go out
this afternoon by yourself. Yes, I know you went with
your girlfriend. You promised me that you were going
to meet an old friend for one hour and then would come
straight back. I promised your Mum I would take you
to meet her at Central Department store at 5 p.m. I
can see from the way you are acting you have taken more
(speech is slightly slurred) Don't be angry. Let me
tell you what happened first.
I went to meet my old friend. He has been working in
Rayong and came back this morning. But he wasn't there.
I was two hours late. Then, as I was about to come back
to school my other friends rang my PCT. They asked me
to meet them at my home. So, I went there and met them.
They had some marijuana and they asked me to take it.
I said I don't mind so we started to prepare the plastic
QUESTION: You told me earlier than you didn't want
to take any more because you didn't feel well and also
that you weren't going to take any more for a long time.
I don't know. I don't really remember everything. I
didn't plan to take amphetamine too. I am not sure.
I remember ringing my mum and asking her if I can take
it one more time. I promised her that it will be the
last time. At first she said no. Then I said something
like don't you trust me? Then she said OK. Then I gave
my money to my friend to go and get it. He came back
with two pills. I gave him half.
Why did you do that again after all your promises
I don't know. I wasn't really myself as I was high on
marijuana and the other pills last night. Maybe it was
goodbye taking. Maybe.
QUESTION: OK. I remember asking you before if you
could stop yourself taking amphetamines if you were
high on marijuana or even drunk on whiskey. You said
you could. What do you say now?
I can't control myself.
QUESTION: Are you going to stop marijuana?
QUESTION: Was that the last time?
I can't say that.
Have you stopped taking amphetamines now?
Yes. Very, very sure.
QUESTION: I am going to take you to meet your mother
now. what do you think she will say?
I told her the truth already. She is OK. I am sure she
will trust me.
What do you think your father will say?
I don't think he will say anything.
QUESTION: OK. Let's go.
Tuesday 3rd July 2001 (2 days later)
QUESTION: That was quite a big weekend you had.
I interviewed you twice on Sunday while everything was
still fresh in your mind. But I think some of your answers
were not that clear and others a bit strange because
you were still high on drugs. I am not sure if you have
changed your mind now or not. First I want to know if
you can remember anything about the weekend.
Not really. It is all mixed up. I am confused. I forgot
almost everything. I am not sure how it started, how
I went from Gai's house to the computer game shop and
how I came to sleep here at school. It confused me when
I woke up as I didn't know where I was at first.
QUESTION: Do you remember me ringing you at 10 p.m.
on Saturday night?
Not really. I don't really remember who put me in the
QUESTION: Did you tell the taxi driver how to come
I don't think so.
QUESTION: When you came here you were talking about
different things. You were worried that you had lost
four pills and you telephoned your friend. You also
telephoned your mum and asked her to find out what time
you were meeting your girlfriend on Sunday. Do you remember
No. I don't remember talking to my mum.
QUESTION: OK. Let's talk about the differences about
marijuana and amphetamine. Are they both drugs?
QUESTION: Are they as bad as each other?
I don't know. Myself I think marijuana is worse because
it made me do something that I can't remember. That
is scary. Marijuana is a bad drug.
QUESTION: But, that is the opposite of what you
said on Sunday. Do you remember what you said.
No, I can't really remember.
I think you said marijuana is good and that you
will keep taking it..
Did I? Really?
QUESTION: Yes. So, have you changed your mind now
that you are no longer high?
Yes, yes yes. For sure. This is scary. More so than
With amphetamine I was more in control of my mind. With
marijuana I lost control. I might have done something
QUESTION: What happened after I dropped you off
at Central Department store?
Nothing, it was like normal. Maybe she was more kind
to me. I think she was trying to make me feel good.
I was a bit embarrassed as she was being very kind.
QUESTION: Did she ask you any questions?
No. That meant she trust me.
QUESTION: What about your father? Did he say anything
to you later?
No. He kept quiet.
QUESTION: Aren't you surprised about that? I remember
you telling me before that you thought your father would
get very angry with you.
I think maybe my mother talked to him. Maybe she told
him to be quiet and not get angry.
QUESTION: Last week we were saying you had a good
step forward as you had stopped yourself while your
friends were taking drugs. Where are you after this
weekend? Have you gone two steps back?
No, I think I have gone forward because I am now stronger.
I know how bad it is and how scary it can be. It has
made be stronger to stop drugs.